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The events of the last two and a half years make much more sense if viewed from the following hypothesis:

Like many Protestant Fundamentalists, George Walker Bush is a millennialist, and believes that he is doing God's work by bringing about the Apocalypse.

Date: 2004-05-30 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stalbon.livejournal.com
I've heard a saying: 'Everyone believes the time they live in is the worst.'

Thus, we all believe Bush is the worst president we can imagine, and I'll admit that I don't like him at all. But he's likely no worse than Nixon, or Grant, or Clinton, or the guy who came after Nixon (I can't believe I cannot remember his name). Is he a good president? No, he's not. But there have been plenty of bad presidents.

I don't know. I just want to give my opinion on things. No, I don't like Bush or his administration at all, but there are others who've done bad things as well. My apologies.

Date: 2004-05-30 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-caton.livejournal.com
Carter was the one after Nixon; peanut farmer from Georgia.
did some good with the Arab/Israeli thing but of course they soon reverted to type....
Surely Ulysses S Grant was so long ago that whatever type of President he was (Generally drunk apparently) is rather moot?

Date: 2004-05-30 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stalbon.livejournal.com
No, no. I meant Ford, now that I remember his name. Everyone pretty much made fun of him, too.

And with Grant, well, there were still people complaining a lot about his character. We're not talking purely about administrative ethics here, we're talking about the presidents themselves, and what they did or how they presented themselves.

Date: 2004-05-30 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hafoc.livejournal.com
There are many flavors of bad. Nixon was psycho and immoral, Nixon's successor Ford was not bright and not at all a leader, Carter was a poor manager and unlucky, and so on.

W's form of bad is that he ignores unpleasant facts. He acts not according to what is true, but accoding to what he _wishes_ were true. And then he compounds the error by saying that he has to stick to an unsuccessful course because that, to him, is the same thing as having moral principles.

But no, I wouldn't say he is the worst president we've ever had. Millard Fillmore and James Buchannan come to mind as two who were worse, and I'm sure there have been others.

Date: 2004-05-30 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silussa.livejournal.com

I personally take faith in the American governmental system in that, no matter how bad the Presidents elected are....the country has survived them.

The Optimist

Date: 2004-05-31 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchkitty.livejournal.com
The optimist fell ten stories
And at each window bar
He called out to his friends
"All right so faaaaaaar..."

Re: The Optimist

Date: 2004-05-31 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silussa.livejournal.com

We survived Ulysses S. Grant, who probably had the most corrupt administration ever.

We survived Richard Nixon, who certainly had the most deliberately hostile administration ever.

We survived Woodrow Wilson; a good man, who was stricken with a stroke and incapacitated for an extended period of time in the office.

We survived Bill Clinton, who with a former Watergate attorney wife proved himself the stupidiest by having forgotten that it isn't the actual activity that gets you....it's the coverup.

I don't think we're managing to create better incompetents...so I'm reasonably comfortable. And if not...that's why there is impeachment, conviction, and removal.

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