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Do you believe in UFOs? Do you have a gut dis/belief or do you rely on empirical proof?

Cheese and rice, who vets these questions these days? Here's another one packed with vague terminology and unwarranted assumptions.

Granted, these are common assumptions, but no less unwarranted, and no less inane.

First and Foremost: UFOs are not a matter of belief or disbelief. I have no doubt whatsoever that there are Flying Objects that have not been Identified, and I suspect that there are those that will flatly deny Identification in the foreseeable future.

Second: the Little Gray Man that accompanies the question on the LJ Home Page carries the implication that "believing in UFOs" conflates to "believing in the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis". In short, it assumes an implicit Identification of the "Unidentified".

"I don't know what it is, so it must be a space alien" is only one possible explanation of Strange Lights In The Sky That Defy Conventional Explanation, and it's not even the most exotic.

And let's not even get into whether you can use "empirical evidence" to prove a negative, since it's entirely unclear as to what is being "proved" or "disproved" here.


Date: 2010-05-07 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourbob.livejournal.com
I've had lots of problems with this in the past, including recent past.

You're right, of course. "Unidentified" does not mean "extraterrestrial". Unless, of course, you're speaking of things like "unidentified culprits in the murder of...". :)

I have seen a U.F.O. Just means I've seen something I can't figure out what it was.

Grrr.

Date: 2010-05-07 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drakegrey.livejournal.com
THANK YOU. Yes. THIS.

Date: 2010-05-08 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpxbrex.livejournal.com
I don't think UFOs exist. Everything in the skies have been identified! To say otherwise is conspiracy theory, which is both evil and wrong-headeded.

I mean, pfft, do we really think dragons are up there? C'mon!

Date: 2010-05-08 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Of course not! There are no such things as dragons! Not at all!

La la laaaaa.

Nothing to see here! Move along!

Date: 2010-05-08 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpxbrex.livejournal.com
Because if a person were to believe in dragons, they would be evil and wrongheaded. Or, worse, perhaps, Chinese.

Date: 2010-05-08 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Or even...

...French.

Date: 2010-05-08 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpxbrex.livejournal.com
Baisez les Français! Il n'y a rien plus mauvais au monde que le Français. J'espère qu'ils tous meurent.

Date: 2010-05-08 07:31 am (UTC)

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