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From FurryMUCK, this morning:
normanrafferty tries to remember the review he read of 'Torchwood'. "I think it said, 'Is it possible for something to be new material and fan-fiction at the same time?'"
Oh, you betcha. Let's codify this, in fact:
Snark'sFirst Second Law of Fanfic (a.k.a. "Running the Asylum"):
A sufficiently established franchise is indistinguishable from fanfic.
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Oh, you betcha. Let's codify this, in fact:
Snark's
A sufficiently established franchise is indistinguishable from fanfic.
When a fictional franchise has lasted long enough to induct its fandom into the ranks of its professional creators, the distinction between Canon and Fan Fic erodes. The new wave of creators start sneaking Fanon into official sources. Ret Cons abound. Writers will revisit old stories, instilling far more self-indulgent detail into the retellings than ever appeared in the original.
In short, the Inmates are Running The Asylum.
Sometimes, this can bring fresh, new life to the franchise. Other times, the same kind of in-fighting that erupts in fannish circles will play out between creative teams -- but now, the factions are all armed with Canon.
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Date: 2007-09-10 09:27 pm (UTC)::B::
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Date: 2007-09-10 11:11 pm (UTC)The same thing happened to all the famous Universal Monsters (Frankenstein, Dracula, The Mummy, etc.), and then there were the sequels, and then the homage sequels to the sequels, and then the Abbott & Costello versions (A&C Meet Frankenstein, A&C Meet Dracula, etc.) and now that all the horror and terror have been completely wrung out are all only used to sell kiddie breakfast cereal.
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Date: 2007-09-11 01:14 am (UTC)By the way, I wuv my widdle plush Cthulhu, and will brook no insult to his fuzzy little squamous head.
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Date: 2007-09-10 09:55 pm (UTC)Mmm. I was just about to say that the only franchises I know of where this has happened is Doctor Who and superhero comics. So much for what I know.
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Date: 2007-09-11 01:09 am (UTC)Just as one example, The Animated Series officially Doesn't Count, but references to it continually show up not only in licensed novels, but in the "real" shows itself. When they did the (brilliant) digital remastering of "Amok Time", they added the Vulcan city from the TAS episode "Yesteryear" in the background.
Meanwhile, nobody acknowledges the fifth movie.
*Thinking about it, "Running the Asylum" is really Snark's Second Law of Fanfic. The first dates back thirty years: "Star Trek novels exist because Paramount realized they weren't making any money on fanzines."
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Date: 2007-09-11 05:48 pm (UTC)Though I guess it would be harder to say since Star Wars isn't an ongoing thing, so there can't be any "new" and "definitely official" stuff that could possibly refer back to any "fan" stuff to bump it up to "possibly official"
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Date: 2007-09-11 11:27 pm (UTC)Star Wars is an EXCELLENT example, really. For quite a while now, I've harbored the suspicion that it is popular not so much for the stories that Lucas decided to tell, but for the stories that COULD be told in the wider setting.
Certainly, I've read about Star Wars RPG campaigns that sounded FAR better than Episodes 1-3.
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Date: 2007-09-10 10:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-11 01:01 pm (UTC)And this is because, well, it is fanfiction. That is, it's fanfiction when it's not an obvious cash-in. Because obviously the first thing that would happen if Spider-Man and Batman met, would be that they'd fight due to some bizarre misunderstanding before shaking hands and uniting against two villains from their own universes, who also may or may not have exchanged blows before deciding that working together works better.