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Public service announcement:

"However" should always, always, always be followed by a comma.

The sole exception is when it's surrounded by quotation marks, as above.

Invariably, if you begin a sentence with an adverb, it should also be followed by a comma.

Please adjust the Internet accordingly.

(Does anyone else find themselves trying to wiki-edit non-wiki pages when they find errors like this?)

Date: 2007-11-13 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclekage.livejournal.com
However you phrase it, there are always exceptions.

*runrunrun*

Date: 2007-11-13 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eggshellhammer.livejournal.com
Curse you, you beat me to it!

Paying the SynTax.

Date: 2007-11-13 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Hrrrrrrrm. Okay, you've got me there -- but that doesn't encompass 95% of the commaless "howevers" I see out there.

Any suggestions for a better phraseology?

Re: Paying the SynTax.

Date: 2007-11-13 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shdragon.livejournal.com
When the word "however" is used to mean "on the other hand", it is always* followed by a comma.

when "however" is used to mean "it does not matter how", the phrase that it begins will always* be followed by a comma.

*using the English Grammar definition of the word "always", to mean "Yeah, not really always."

Date: 2007-11-13 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchkitty.livejournal.com
You left out joining two sentences into one with a comma but without a conjunction, as in:

I've never cared for stroganoff, I'll eat it if there's nothing else available.

Certain ancient texts on sexual positions aside, I don't know of anybody who's turned on by -- wait for it -- comma sutures.

Date: 2007-11-13 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikaani.livejournal.com
That calls for the highly misunderstood semicolon.

Date: 2007-11-15 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchkitty.livejournal.com
I've always wondered why we don't call the small intestine a semicolon.

Date: 2007-11-13 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svashtar.livejournal.com
I'm more bothered by the misuse of apostrophes.

Apostrophe's means "Apostrophe possesses something". Apostrophes is the plural.

Also, please to be using their, they're, and there correctly? They're is a contraction. It means "They Are". There is a place. There it is. Their is a possessive. That there thing is theirs, and they're really possessive about it.

KTHXBYE.

Date: 2007-11-13 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Apostrophe Abuse has been so admirably and exhaustively covered by Bob the Angry Flower that I have nothing more to add.

Date: 2007-11-13 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeto.livejournal.com
My pet peeve is the missing comma in sentences when someone is being addressed.

"It really is time to eat, Mark."

"It really is time to eat Mark."

Very different meanings.

Date: 2007-11-13 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svashtar.livejournal.com
You don't know. Maybe they WANT to eat Mark. I hear Mark is tasty.

Date: 2007-11-13 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tombfyre.livejournal.com
Huzzah for being a Grammar Nazi! ^^ It tends to be difficult going through our beloved World Wide Web, when one is persistently bombarded by the various typing mistakes people vomit forth.

Date: 2007-11-13 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shdragon.livejournal.com
I have enough trouble not nitpicking my friends' AIM messages. One of them, in particular. According to him, you "ware" clothes, and other such things.

And then I go and type way too fast myself and end up with all sorts of interesting typos. So I keep my mouth shut.

Date: 2007-11-13 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchkitty.livejournal.com
Of course, in the case of fursuits, "were" is the correct spelling.
Exit, stage left...

Date: 2007-11-13 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rakeesh.livejournal.com
Unless. You. Speak. Like. Every. Word. Is. Its. Own. Sentence.

.....SENTENCE FRAGMENT!

....."SENTENCE FRAGMENT" is also a sentence fragment.

Date: 2007-11-14 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hafoc.livejournal.com
Comma abuse pales before the menace of text-messaging "language." Of course my hate of this is probably because of my conviction that the people who type this stuff are the same ones who sit three rows behind me in the move and TALK ON THEIR CELL PHONES THROUGH THE ENTIRE MOVIE.

OMFG! ICU! How R U?

I r fine and u r an IDIOT! LEARN TO TYPE, DAMMIT!

No, officer, I never tried to shove their cell phones up their.. Honestly, it wouldn't have fit with the screen open, and.. Doctor Bates? Tephie? Little blue pill? Ahhhhh...... thanngggkkkk.... you..... (thud)

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