CAESAR!

Mar. 15th, 2005 11:15 am
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Beware the Ides of March!

(Mutter mutter Philistines mutter mutter "Pi Day" mutter mutter friggin' Shakespeare classical reference mutter....)

Date: 2005-03-15 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drleo.livejournal.com
Uh.. Isn't it Caesar with an 'a'?

Date: 2005-03-15 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shavastak.livejournal.com
There are at least three acceptable spellings:
Caeser
Caesar
Cesar

I wouldn't be surprised if there were more. The name is far, far older than standardized spelling.

Date: 2005-03-15 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikoshi.livejournal.com
Hmmm. I know that English standardized spelling took a while to sink in, and all, but didn't Latin standardize it?

Granted, I know that a lot of Latin would abbreviate things quite regularly, but I would be inclined to guess that spelling something like a leader's name improperly would have been seen as faux pas...

Date: 2005-03-15 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetpage.livejournal.com
Latin did standardize it, but English hasn't always followed the Latin standardized spelling. It will never be wrong if spelled the Latin way, but that's not the only way to spell it correctly.

Date: 2005-03-15 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikoshi.livejournal.com
I suppose that the point of having a 'One True English Spelling' is a bit moot, too, if we don't really know how Latin was pronounced, anyway. :)

Date: 2005-03-15 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Actually, we do have a pretty good idea of how Latin was pronounced. "Caeser" wasn't pronounced "Seize Her", but "Kaiser".

(I took Latin in high school.)

Date: 2005-03-15 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikoshi.livejournal.com
I had always been under the impression that Latin pronunciation was based on 'Best Educated Guess' from all of those scholarly folk who know such things, and all. Hence, the disparity between Classical Latin and Church Latin.

Personally, I much prefer the sound of Classical Latin. Not only does it sound more believable (IMHO), it just sort of sounds neat. HAIL KY-ZAR!

(Unfortunately, the word 'vulpes' sounds a lot less cool in Classical than it does by Church Latin or more 'Englishy' readings...)

Date: 2005-03-15 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Tsar!
Czar!
Kaiser!

Date: 2005-03-15 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Thanks. I was wondering why that looked wrong.

Date: 2005-03-15 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rakeesh.livejournal.com
What? The Eyes of March? *looks around* The IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIs! The iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis!

-Rak(The 3'9, Canadian, anthro dragon otherwise known as Rakeesh)

Date: 2005-03-16 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stalbon.livejournal.com
But...but there AREN'T any Is in March!

Date: 2005-03-16 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
There's no "I" in "Team", either.

Date: 2005-03-16 06:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tephra
To paraphrase House, "ah, but there is a me, if you mix up the letters a bit." :)

Date: 2005-03-15 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hedgegoth.livejournal.com
Yay! Caesar Salad with Pi for dessert!

Date: 2005-03-15 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terminotaur.livejournal.com
Yeah, the warnings were there but for some reason the salad still just sat there while I plunged the fork again and again into its yielding tissue. :)

Date: 2005-03-15 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-caton.livejournal.com
When Julius had the Emperors job
He met a maid from Pisa....
"What shall I do?!"
He asked the mob
And the crowd all shouted Caesar!

Date: 2005-03-15 10:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tephra
*sniff* No one ever 'wares the ides of other months. Or the kalends. But let one emperor get knifed and one bard write of it and everyone remembers the March ides. ;>

Date: 2005-03-15 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Taxpayers! Beware the Ides of April!

Date: 2005-03-16 12:00 am (UTC)
tephra: Photo portrait of a doll with shaggy, dark orange and copper hair, wearing a pink slouchy hat and sky blue glasses. (Default)
From: [personal profile] tephra
Ah, but the Ides of April are on the 13th. :)

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