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Since Enterprise first hit the airwaves, I've made no secret of my distaste. I'm used to the Star Trek franchise not being the best Science Fiction by SF standards, but Enterprise wasn't even very good Star Trek.

I have said, in the past, that the only way one can reconcile Enterprise with the established Trek Canon is to assume that it is, in fact, the 24th-Century equivalent of Sam Raimi's Hercules and Xena: fantasy shows with a vaguely historical setting, chock full of inaccuracies and anachronisms, enjoyed mostly for the cheesy humor value of being so damned B-movie bad.

I was right.

Update: thanks to [livejournal.com profile] tealfox for pointing this one out to me last week, though I didn't see it until today!

Date: 2005-03-08 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tealfox.livejournal.com
I poked you about this in your orginal entry about 5 days ago! ;)

Date: 2005-03-08 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
LJ's spazzy about e-mailing me replies. I couldn't actually FIND my original entry -- could you give me a link so I can update this one with it?

Date: 2005-03-08 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hedgegoth.livejournal.com
Geez, if that's true, they really did jump the shark big time.

We need to get the new Dr. Who in this country, it's awesome

Date: 2005-03-08 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonasbagel.livejournal.com
Dude. Y'know what we should do? We should get all the locals together on May 13th (the finale's date), and have a 'wake' party for Star Trek. ;D Then when the finale's over and finally rolling credits, we all throw popcorn at the TV. Just a thought. XD

Date: 2005-03-08 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Oh, I'll be celebrating, no doubt. And if they really do use my entry, I will be SO bleedin' smug.

How did someone put it?

ATHEL0WNED.

Date: 2005-03-08 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikoshi.livejournal.com
Hahahaha! Jonathan Frakes mocks you all!!

Delcious justice!

Date: 2005-03-08 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toy-dragon.livejournal.com
Um, rumor mills aside, and this itself is largely a rumor no matter how likely to be true, the concept isn't that the entire show is a holo-drama. The events in the finale are merely being reviewed using the holodeck. Everything before then, so the more reliable rumors go, didn't happen in the holo-deck.

Of course, it's possible that the Killer Bees will set their phasers on the highest Voyager wank setting and actually go for claiming the entire thing was a recreation in the holodeck which puts historical accuracy into question.

Date: 2005-03-08 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Vulcans Don't Lie.

When Spock managed to exaggerate, mislead, or Omit Important Information, those around him were invariably astonished at his amazing inVulcan abilities.

Every other appearance of Vulcans in every other Trek show confirmed this.

As soon as Enterprise centered an entire episode around a whole BUNCH of Vulcans LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH in response to DIRECT QUESTIONS, any pretense the show had to "historical accuracy" fell apart.

Date: 2005-03-08 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toy-dragon.livejournal.com
Ironic that in the fourth season, the Vulcan descrepencies were actually dealt with; though personally, I'd always felt that the "incorrect" behavior of Vulcans on Enterprise was there to actually get your attention. Yeah, it wasn't "right" as far as Star Trek had so far portrayed Vulcans. Obviously, something was different with Vulcan in this era.

I suppose fans could have waited to see where it was going, and indeed, they eventually got there. The character of Vulcans was so obvious, so set in stone, I think it was pretty bloody easy for most any writer working on Enterprise to grasp what a traditional Vulcan was supposed to be like. Heh, over the course of the series, I wonder how many times Archer or another human remarked something to the effect "Dang, you Vulcans advertise logic and truth but sure aren't living up to it."

I mean, it seemed kinda obvious to me that the writers of Enterprise actually had some idea of what they were doing. Even if a lot of fans didn't LIKE it, it's just my opinion that the show wasn't as bad - or poorly constructed - as the more scornful enjoy portraying it as.

Date: 2005-03-08 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Insert comment from Triumph The Insult Comic Dog here.

Date: 2005-03-08 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] araquan.livejournal.com
I guess this means I'll have to watch the show for the first time in two years, eh?

Date: 2005-03-08 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edhyena.livejournal.com
It just won't be worth watching unless either Sirtis or Frakes are wearing a Gargoyle costume.

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