An Open Letter To Ben Stein
May. 2nd, 2008 10:34 pmMy daily perusal of BoingBoing exposes me to a wide range of "wonderful things" -- and, occasionally, the horrific as well. On a rare occasion, something I find there will drive me to delight and elation -- and others, to tears of indignant outrage.
This is not an example of the former.
This evening, the monotone maw of Ben Stein, star of stage, screen, and Nixon speechwriting, graced us with the following:
Mr. Stein, I will not attempt a rebuttal. I have no need to do so. Thirty-five years ago, Jacob Bronowski said everything that need be said in his magnum opus, The Ascent of Man, in a scene filmed on the site of those very atrocities you evoke so wryly, as the ashy remains of his own family members and yours flowed through his fingers:
Which of us, Mr. Stein, claims to know the Mind of God?
This is not an example of the former.
This evening, the monotone maw of Ben Stein, star of stage, screen, and Nixon speechwriting, graced us with the following:
When we just saw that man, I think it was Mr. Myers [biologist P.Z. Myers], talking about how great scientists were, I was thinking to myself the last time any of my relatives saw scientists telling them what to do they were telling them to go to the showers to get gassed … that was horrifying beyond words, and that’s where science — in my opinion, this is just an opinion — that’s where science leads you.
Mr. Stein, I will not attempt a rebuttal. I have no need to do so. Thirty-five years ago, Jacob Bronowski said everything that need be said in his magnum opus, The Ascent of Man, in a scene filmed on the site of those very atrocities you evoke so wryly, as the ashy remains of his own family members and yours flowed through his fingers:
It is said that science will dehumanise people and turn them into numbers. This is false, tragically false. Look for yourself. This is the concentration camp and crematorium at Auschwitz. This is where people were turned into numbers. Into this pond were flushed the ashed of some four million people. And that was not done by gas. It was done by arrogance. It was done by dogma. It was done by ignorance. When people believe that they have absolute knowledge, with no test in reality, this is how they behave. This is what men do when they aspire to the knowledge of gods.
Science is a very human form of knowledge. We are always at the brink of the known, we always feel forward for what is to be hoped. Every judgment in science stands on the edge of error, and is personal. Science is a tribute to what we can know although we are fallible. In the end the words were said by Oliver Cromwell: 'I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken.'
I owe it as a scientist to my friend Leo Szilard, I owe it as a human being to the many members of my family who died at Auschwitz, to stand here by the pond as a survivor and a witness. We have to cure ourselves of the itch for absolute knowledge and power. We have to close the distance between the push-button order and the human act. We have to touch people.
Which of us, Mr. Stein, claims to know the Mind of God?
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Date: 2008-05-03 06:02 am (UTC)I digress. Mr Stein is an idiot.
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Date: 2008-05-03 07:46 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-05-03 08:02 am (UTC)Therefore, to invoke comparison with Nazi philosophy is to subject any supporter of a position to the accusation of being a Nazi sympathizer, which is untenable. Thus the invocation is meant to make everyone denounce the position in question, whether it's correct or not.
See also: Reductio ad Hitlerum
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Date: 2008-05-03 02:03 pm (UTC)Ben Stein is prostituting the corpses of the relatives to whom he alludes to forward a politial/dogmatic agenda.
Or possibly just to make a quick buck.
Commentary on Jewish stereotypes is left as an exercise to the reader.
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Date: 2008-05-03 04:12 pm (UTC)My grandmother was a woman of profound faith and profound reason. I think she'd look upon the current neoconservative appropriation of religion as a justification of anti-intellectualism as a personal affront.
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Date: 2008-05-03 05:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-03 09:19 pm (UTC)This isn't hypocracy, or willfull ignorance. This is insanity. I'm wondering now if Heinlein's "Year of the Jackpot" or Pohl's "Brain Wave" might be fact...
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Date: 2008-05-04 01:51 am (UTC)Ben's made a career out of portraying an intelligent, erudite gentleman (with, yes, a somewhat grating monotone). Many people, myself included, seem to have assumed he actually had something going on upstairs.
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Date: 2008-05-04 01:54 am (UTC)Cancel NASA While You're At It.
Date: 2008-05-04 02:21 am (UTC)That just proves that any talk of space, both exploration and theory, is completely wrong, and totally tainted. Any godly person would know that we are at the center of the universe and anything worth mentioning is right here on earth. The Bible doesn't mention a single thing about anything else than earth and God's kingdom of heaven and we should focus completely on that. Besides, we don't have any reputable evidence that all those intellectual egg-heads didn't just fake the moon landing.
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Date: 2008-05-04 03:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-04 04:49 am (UTC)Golf clap!
Date: 2008-05-04 04:50 am (UTC)Re: Cancel NASA While You're At It.
Date: 2008-05-04 04:52 am (UTC)These guys sure like science when it lets them reach a larger audience, all right.
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Date: 2008-05-04 06:21 am (UTC)It was the absolute utilitarian attitude of the Nazis combined with the pseudo-science of eugenics that led to the situation Mr. Stein describes.
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Date: 2008-05-04 07:06 am (UTC)"So, you say that evolution is bullshit; that it's a baldfaced lie and there's no evidence for it. Alright then. We'll be over here with the antibiotics that we engineered with knowledge that we had to pry out of bacteria's convoluted DNA. You go farm some dirt. Get back to us later."
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Date: 2008-05-04 07:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-04 12:20 pm (UTC)"Evolution is bullshit. Evolution doesn't happen. Okay, fine. You keep taking the antibiotics that most strains of bacteria have already evolved a resistence to. Let me know how that works out."
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Date: 2008-05-04 12:25 pm (UTC)I think "religion" can be safely replaced with "science", here.
Of course, replacing religion with science is what gets the Discovery Institute's panties in a wad in the first place, isn't it? Ba-dum-ching.