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athelind ([personal profile] athelind) wrote2010-05-20 09:33 am

The Dragon's Eye View: Draw Mohammed Day

"Draw Mohammad Day" offends me, despite the fact that I read Gods Playing Poker, which depicts Mohammad in every single strip.

GPP is irreverent and snarky, but it isn't in the least mean-spirited, and this "crusade" most certainly is.

(Of course, it's in "defense" of one of the most mean-spirited shows in U.S. television history, so yeah.)

This little stunt offends me because it's not just aimed at the Fundamentalists; this is a deliberate slap at moderate and progressive Muslims, as well (not that many of the Draw Mohammed Day crowd actually bother to acknowledge that there's a difference). It's a wide-sweeping smackdown of an entire group, and it's saying the same damned thing that the real offenders keep saying: "all of them hate all of us."

Gods damn it, people. how hard is it to grasp? If you're really opposed to an ideology, don't let its adherents frame the argument.

I'm not saying "don't do this". I'm not saying "it shouldn't be allowed". I am saying that we need to examine the motives and sincerity behind it. So much of the output is a tedious repetition of hackneyed Prophet-As-Terrorist memes that it's hard to see it as a statement of "artistic freedom".

If this were really about "free speech", we'd be following it with "Draw Christ Getting Raped In The Nail-Holes Day".


Wow. I think that's the most Regrettably Appropriate use of the word "crusade" I've invoked in a long time.

[identity profile] odiedragon.livejournal.com 2010-05-20 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
If this were really about "free speech", we'd be following it with "Draw Christ Getting Raped In The Nail-Holes Day".

I'm down with that :P

[identity profile] pathia.livejournal.com 2010-05-20 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's the double standard that people are angry about. See how Southpark had to deal with it. They could animate Jesus shitting (and did) and throwing his own feces at the American Flag and nothing happened. Yet they couldn't even show Mohammed's face.

[identity profile] toob.livejournal.com 2010-05-20 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that the fact that to compare the two you can't just say "draw Christ," but say "draw Christ getting raped in the nail-holes" says a lot about why this exists in the first place.

I agree, the day is unnecessarily antagonistic and ought not to exist, but honestly, the only way people are going to be able to criticize and satirize Islam THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER RELIGION is if not one or two prominent artists are doing it, but if EVERYONE does.

As an agnostic, and one who believes that organized religion of ANY stripe is inherently dangerous, I reserve the right to make fun of Mohammad and Islam along with any other religion out there, and call it out for its shit when its shit it wages. Peoples gots to realize their cow is no more sacred than their neighbor's.
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[personal profile] scarfman 2010-05-20 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)

This. What I wish I'd said about it.

I put Mohammed in a cartoon once, in the days before Arthur, King of Time and Space (though still a cartoon with Merlin and Arthur in it). It was some years before the hulabaloo over the Danish cartoons, and I remember being confounded at not finding any images of Mohammed at Google.

My initial reaction to the hulabaloo over the Danish cartoons was to feel left out for never having generated any controversy - but then I realized their motivation was very, very different: i.e., to generate controversy.

Later when, as I often do with older gags, I reused the gag for Arthur, King of Time and Space, this time I did it without actually picturing Mohammed, because my intention had never been to show disrespect for Islam or any of its beliefs - but rather, ironically, to poke at the many, many people on both sides who prefer to look at the differences between us instead of the similarities.

Edited 2010-05-20 17:02 (UTC)

[identity profile] daibhid-c.livejournal.com 2010-05-20 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with this. In my own LJ I wrote:

I don't think there's anything wrong with drawing a picture of the Christian God as a man in robes with a big white beard. Or however else you wish to draw him.

I'm less sure about doing so for no other reason than to piss off the Free Church of Scotland.

[identity profile] moult.livejournal.com 2010-05-20 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Hear hear. I'm glad to find I'm not the only one (by a long chalk) who found this deeply insensitive and misconceived.

[identity profile] starblade-enkai.livejournal.com 2010-05-21 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
What if Labor Day were subjected to the principle you're using in this post? I'm pretty sure those Tea Party folk would love another reason to garner attention to themselves, and I'm pretty sure anything with even vaguely socialist connotations offends them.

[identity profile] bfdragon.livejournal.com 2010-05-21 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
I had a long thought about how I felt about it the other night. On the one hand, I think that it's really quite angering the threats and violence that has resulted from people doing such depictions. I do believe in a freedom of speech and expression, people have a right to say insulting and derogatory things.

On the other hand, I do believe people should be basically civil to each other. While the actions of a few might anger me, the majority don't seem to have the intention of such things. It seems to be a bit of nuclear diplomacy to do it with such a broad stroke, it isn't civil to the millions of others who do not share the view of the others.

There is of course a sort of wildcard in this all though. As Parthia alluded to, the Shi'a don't have such a strong prohibition against the depiction of Muhammad. Thus depictions of Muhammad are quite common in Iran. This does make me just that much more angry at the ones who are doing the threats and the arrogance of the 'everyone else is wrong' attitude.

Civility though, still wins out for me, I do think that people have the right to do it, I wouldn't have the southpark guys go back and undo what they did, but I just have little patience for the outright derogatory. Sure, you have a right to be an asshole, but you are still an asshole.