Since when is a blastocyst/embryo's right to continue to feed off of a living sentient woman (because by the time most abortions are performed - six to eight weeks - that's all you've got - no 'fetus', and most certainly no 'baby') more important than a currently living, contributing, feeling, emotional, aware and SENTIENT woman's right to personal autonomy and not to have a parasite that, if she wanted it, she wouldn't be attempting to get rid of it?
And you know what? Having been there... yes, to me, abortion IS murder... if that's what you call being forced to kill in self defense. Some women would really and truly rather die than be forced into a nine month period of bodily slavery, not knowing if the parasite you're incubating is going to be adoptable/whether you can afford the doctor's appointments/whether your health, both physical and mental, will stand up to it - and no guarantee that, if you CAN give it up for adoption, it won't come back in twelve, eighteen, twenty years, asking WHY you didn't want it. And the pro-life folk certainly aren't offering to take all these unwanted ones and pay for their lives, their medical expenses, their schooling, etc...
This is the one case where, unless you've had an actual life experience with UNWANTED pregnancy (not 'unplanned' - unWANTED), the stance of 'pro-life' as an opinion just cuts no mustard and throws no dice with me. I am usually open-minded and willing to listen to other points of view - but not here. Tell me you've had that kind of experience, or that your girlfriend has, and I'll listen to and accept your opinion. Until then, you don't really know what it's like. You might have an idea, a preconception... but you don't KNOW.
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Since when is a blastocyst/embryo's right to continue to feed off of a living sentient woman (because by the time most abortions are performed - six to eight weeks - that's all you've got - no 'fetus', and most certainly no 'baby') more important than a currently living, contributing, feeling, emotional, aware and SENTIENT woman's right to personal autonomy and not to have a parasite that, if she wanted it, she wouldn't be attempting to get rid of it?
And you know what? Having been there... yes, to me, abortion IS murder... if that's what you call being forced to kill in self defense. Some women would really and truly rather die than be forced into a nine month period of bodily slavery, not knowing if the parasite you're incubating is going to be adoptable/whether you can afford the doctor's appointments/whether your health, both physical and mental, will stand up to it - and no guarantee that, if you CAN give it up for adoption, it won't come back in twelve, eighteen, twenty years, asking WHY you didn't want it. And the pro-life folk certainly aren't offering to take all these unwanted ones and pay for their lives, their medical expenses, their schooling, etc...
This is the one case where, unless you've had an actual life experience with UNWANTED pregnancy (not 'unplanned' - unWANTED), the stance of 'pro-life' as an opinion just cuts no mustard and throws no dice with me. I am usually open-minded and willing to listen to other points of view - but not here. Tell me you've had that kind of experience, or that your girlfriend has, and I'll listen to and accept your opinion. Until then, you don't really know what it's like. You might have an idea, a preconception... but you don't KNOW.
I would rather have died.