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athelind ([personal profile] athelind) wrote2004-11-19 08:04 am

Calling a Spade A Spade

In our critiques of the current Administration and the movement that pushed it into power, we have a tendency to back away from the "F-word" whenver anyone accuses us of being "alarmist" or invokes Goodwin's Law.

We shouldn't.

In a recent sermon from the Unitarian Universalist Church of Austin, Davidson Loehr provides the symptoms and historical context behind the word. It is not just a mud-slinging label, not merely a buzzword or a sound byte. It is an accurate definition, and it behooves us all to understand what the word really means, what it has meant in the past, and what it means for our future.

While the Church's own website, including the transcript of the sermon, is now mysteriously incaccessable, [livejournal.com profile] berbalang has provided the full text here.

I defy anyone to read the first thirteen points of his description, and continue to rationalize the actions and policies of the group currently holding power in this country as anything but fascism.

[identity profile] hitchkitty.livejournal.com 2004-11-19 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
2.) Those people who did Abu Ghrab are going to jail

From the article:
The people tend to look the other way or even approve of
torture


And our new Attorney General is one of them.

5.) We're talkinga bout BUSH being sexist after someone like Clinton?

You're gonna have to elaborate on that one. How, exactly, was Clinton sexist? And even if he was, this would refute the Good Old BOYS accusation how?

7.) Obsessed with national security?

Again quoting:
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

Can you honestly deny that this has happened?

11.) Only professors I've heard of getting in trouble gave open rants for killing of Bush...

Let's see here...professors getting in trouble for ranting against the administration. And you don't consider that an attack on free expression.

12.) We have no national police. Patriot Act I and II still have judicial oversight.

Congress has tried, recently, to push through a bill that would eliminate said oversight entirely. And in any case, the article said "...often a
national police force with virtually unlimited power..."
.

14.) Don't make me laugh

Hmm, let's take a look here:
use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries

It's called "gerrymandering". Look it up.

Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

I can only assume you slept through the 2000 election.

[identity profile] pathia.livejournal.com 2004-11-19 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You have a point with 5, but suffice to say I disagree with the rest and we're not going to do anything except yell at each other anyway so I won't bother.

[identity profile] kolchis.livejournal.com 2004-11-20 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
And yet I have the feeling we'll see you again.

Interesting to see someone who fits the profile of the PIPA report, though... in denial or even delusional.

[identity profile] pathia.livejournal.com 2004-11-20 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
PIPA report?